Here We Go Again….

J- called our home on 7-18-97, complaining about stuff as usual, including me, as usual.

I wrote her a letter dated 7-20-97 and mailed it today, 7-22-97:


“Here we go around the mulberry bush, the money chased the weasel!!” This is what I think 99% of the time you wrote or call It’s the SOS different day with you!!

This letter is in response to your harassing phone call to our home on July 18th, 1997. I was mentioned during this conversation, so I have a right to respond.

The letter Keith sent you dated 7-15-97, was sent to you because he told you there was a “difference of opinion” in the amount of money he owes you and he would send you a letter showing you why. did you hear this part of the conversation or were you not listening once again?

Keith drafts up the letters, I type them. How do WE know if YOU wrote YOUR computer printed letters? It’s not YOUR handwriting yet you sign them! Get a grip J- if you are going to call our home to harass us about a letter that you received, stick to the contents of the letter!! Every letter you receive is in direct response to letters you write Keith!!

There is nothing “derogatory” about telling the truth. You refused to pay 1/2 of a bill, which is against court orders making you in contempt of court YOU should know this- Prior to June 1996, you accused Keith of this VERY thing since Dec 95-actually Jan 1996! Now, let me speak to you in English- you refused to pay 1/2 of the bill Keith told you about- NOT because you weren’t sent a copy, as you want US to believe, BUT because Keith “still owes you money on bills you have there.” Hey, no problem- no big deal- we’ll pay the bills & deduct the amount you owe from the amount Keith owes you- sounds fair! However don’t be so quick to accuse Keith of being in contempt for non payment. You do get money every moth, to be applied towards medical etc. $100 as a matter of fact!

As long as the kids are covered under J’s (her husbands) insurance, at least for the duration- you will continue to receive copies of EOB’s, when this coverage ceases, as YOU have stated it will, you will no longer receive EOB’s- there will be no need. You will find out what the insurance- (Keith’s insurance) pays, when you receive a bill from the provider of service you used. You will still be required to send Keith a copy of the bill since he is court ordered to pay 1/2 and will need proof of what he is paying for.

Incidentally- the only way Keith would owe 1/2 of EVERYTHING the insurance paid out is if J cancels the policy on the kids retroactively to as far back as 2-20-93. This could add up to a hell of a lot of money, just because you feel the need to be spiteful and shitty to Keith- I can’t imagine J cancelling as far back as 2-20-93- but stranger things have happened! Instead of threatening all the time now about this, just have J do the inevitable, isn’t this what YOU want him to do, oh I mean what he needs to do?

Apparently you are not TOO concerned about bothering Keith or the kids during their visitation as you stated on Monday. Otherwise you never would have called! Do you not have any scruples or decency? Self control is OBVIOUSLY a problem!! According to your letters and phone calls, you know how much Keith and the kids love each other. Your statement- “I hope you are showing the kids that they are equally as important as your new life…” is so moronic, not to mention unconscionable!!

OK, OK, OK- so Keith has been married 4 times- so- your point? You’ve been married twice- so has J-at least! I think I’m in the minority here- I’ve only been married once! Lets see- there’s wife #1- B- I think she’s a beautiful, decent human being who “lives and lets lives.” Wife #2- you- be like B- “Live and let live” Life would be so much sweeter! Wife #3-D- I’ve known her for 17 years now. She “needed to go back to the land of Milk and honey to feel pure and whole again” and hasn’t been heard from since. Wife #4- me- I love and trust my husband completely. This is why I married him- it CERTAINLY wasn’t for his money and it CERTAINLY wasn’t because it was a “better offer.” I defend him and protect him, which is MY right as his wife.

On May 19, 1997, you called a truce between us- it only lasted until July 18th though pretty good for YOU, huh? Talk about back stabbing! The conversations we had while making travel plans for the kids, the 45 minute conversation we had after I had the baby, the tidbits of info you bestowed unto me- all bullshit!! You told Keith, “If your wife would spend as much time trying to get me to do this & to try & compile this info as she would on a job- you wouldn’t have this problem.” First of all, I think you said this backwards, and secondly, I do have a job- I am on maternity leave because I had a baby- did you forget? Hello? Get a grip!!

The fact of the matter is- or should I say the the “heart of the matter” (sound familiar? Bring back any memories? You wrote down the words to this song and sent it to Keith- how sweet!) is that you can only get a long with Keith and myself or a BRIEF period of time!!

I truly believe it when Keith tells you that you have a grudge against him that goes WAY back and you can’t let it go!! Every time you call and harass, you throw things up from the past! Get over it girl- YOU told him to leave- he did!! YOU told him you didn’t want to be married anymore, You’re not!! (Lucky for me!!) YOU got your wishes- be happy!!

You need to watch your own P’s and Q’s because with everything I know about you and your “controversial” past shall we say- you are the LAST person on this earth who should pass judgment on Keith, myself, Sarah and Thomas. By the way, who died and made you God? Your sanctimonious attitude is not very becoming of you!!

It has been almost 7 weeks since my last note- Merry Christmas!! (In July!!)



Here We Go Again….

J called at 7:40 pm. She was pissed. Pissed that he credited the wire fees, ($20) and the Person to Person collect call she made the kids do of $9.11 toward money that he owed her. She told Keith a few days ago that she wasn’t going to pay 1/2 of medical bills incurred on behalf of their son. He wrote a letter to her. She got it today apparently.

She brought me up, asking Keith:

J- got your letter, very petty. did you write this letter?

K- yeah, I did.

J- you wrote all these figures and figured all this out?

K- that’s right.

J- you typed it

K- I didn’t type it, I wrote it.

J- did Patricia type it?

K- yes she did

J- did they see her?

K- no they didn’t. I’M BROKE.

J- you know what? if your wife would spend as much time trying to get me to do this and to try and compile this information as she would on a job, you wouldn’t have this problem! It’s not my problem that you don’t have a second income and that you had another baby!

K- I never said it was

J- or that you’re supporting another kid that’s not yours, that’s not my fault! If you want to talk about just you by yourself and your income and you supporting your two kids, we’ll talk about it.

(He did say he was broke, right?) Then she thought I was on the phone… she continued to berate Keith:


K- excuse me?


K- There ain’t nobody on the phone


K- There’s nobody on the phone so get off your rag!

She alleges he sent her a derogatory letter between 7/14 and 7/18. The kids are here visiting, mind you. She tells Keith:

J- I wasn’t going to call your house the entire time the kids were there because I don’t want to hassle you when you’re visiting your kids so I wasn’t calling you- I’m not hassling you!

K- you’ve been hassling me since we got on the phone!

J- The letter comes because I didn’t call you back and tell you about the money, so you decided to have your little secretary sit down and write it all out for you.

J- I wrote it out.


K- bullshit


K- I don’t care if you think it is or isn’t.

J- THIS ISN’T YOUR HANDWRITING! I hope you’re showing the kids that they’re equally as important as your new life!

K- excuse me, what?

J- I hope you’re showing the kids that they’re equally as important as your new life, that it’s breaking you with no money, that new life is breaking you!

THEN, she was beyond pissed and started talking MAJOR smack, insisting that Keith tells his kids how horrible she is, what a horrible person she is with no heart.

Keith told her she is that way TO HIM and OTHERS LIKE HIM, but he NEVER tells the kids anything.

She continued to rage to TELL the kids what a horrible mother she is. He told her, “I have NEVER done that, and I NEVER will do that. That’s between you and me”

She accused him and I of having conversations about her in front of the kids. He DENIED this, again saying he never has and he never will, he’s not that type of person, that he never has told the kids about his feelings about her and he never will, that it’s between him and her.

He tells her:

K- I kick myself in the ass all the time. I’m glad for (SS and SD) but I knew right from the start there was something wrong with you, you really do.

J- you told me you thought there was some kind of mental thing going and you knew something was wrong with me from the beginning

K- you told me there was.

J- when?

K- many times. You’ve had something against me that you cannot let go and you just have to keep pushing me- and then you make it sound like I’m doing it to you!

J- Well, you what, if you thought it was so bad,7 years of being together Keith I think you should have made a decision before it got that far.

K- Well, I’ll tell you what, I thought it was going to be a good deal

J- Just like you thought it was going to be a good deal with (ex #3), just like you think it’s going to be a good deal with Patricia.

K- ya, I know, it’s me, and it probably is, I bring the best out in everyone

J- I haven’t been married 4 times!

K- well, throw that on me, what else? What about all the boyfriends you had while we were married?

J denied this.

K- I’m not going to get into it, it will just raise my blood pressure and it’s not worth it.

J demanded to speak to her kids. She was crying by this time, and Keith asked if she was ok. She got angry and said that she doesn’t pretend with her kids, she’s not ashamed of her, the kids will figure it out- they know what’s going on-“THEY AREN’T STUPID!” Keith said, “I never said they were, I was concerned about you and thought you ay need a MINUTE” She belts out, “NO, I DON’T NEED A MINUTE!” he went and got the kids and she goes on to say, before the kids got on the phone, “I NEED A FUCKING LIFETIME BACK!”

WHEW, not only did she try and gaslight him, but she also doesn’t hear when correctly when she is in this RAGE state of mind.

Got them-

Neither Kids nor J called to say they got the tickets (and suckers)

Keith called the kids around 8:20pm and the kids said they got the tickets and suckers today. Also said L was being baptized on Monday and all they were doing at the moment was playing Monopoly.


Summer Tickets

In a letter dated 6-2-97, I wrote to J:

“Hi J-

Here are the tickets for summer visitation with the kids. Please call or have the kids call when you get these so we know they got there safely!!

Thanks a bunch!!


*Also sent suckers saying “It’s a Boy” on them to the kids.

Mailed this today

Where’s the Money?

Not sure what time I called J at work today, but I did, to find out if she had wired her share of airfare. The lady that answered the phone, (K) said that J was with a customer and she would call back.

Well, J called back a few minutes later and said that K, who answered the phone is the one that actually wired the money and she could have told me that herself. J said it was wired about 11:00 am.


Keith was sending J an EOB for services rendered on 4-6-97 for one of his kids.

I added a note to it-

“Hi J-

Please contact (Provider of service) at 800-***-**** and give them your insurance info so they may bill them for services rendered. Account # is *****. Thanks, Patricia”

Called EX at Work

So, I called J at work at 9am. I asked her if she could talk now, and she said sure. She also asked if we could pay for airfare and she will send the money so we don’t have to pay for a wire fee. We couldn’t buy both, as we had to pay for car repairs.

I gave her information leaving on 7/11 and returning 8/16. She had an issue with the departure time and seats the kids were given and asked if we can switch them up. We did, then she had an issue with this new arrangement because there would be someone sitting in between them. They had seats D and F.

At the end of the day, it all got worked out.

Home from the Hospital

Keith called J and the kids tonight at 8:00 pm

I spoke to J for 45 (long) minutes. It was a rather pleasant phone conversation, I was shocked. We talked about every thing new born, breast feeding, how to place his little penis in his diaper so he doesn’t get his clothes all went when he pees, I told thanks for that tip, LOL.

We talked about so much, how Keith WAS there, and that he and Sarah stayed in the room with me after I had the baby, complications before I had the baby, a reaction to pain and numbing meds they gave me, how we were all surprised I had a boy when I was told “70% chance girl.”

J- here I was thinking that whole thing to, I was thinking, cool, 2 girls, that’s kinda nice and that whole time and them, um, and then when (SD and SS) said that (boy)I’m all DANG IT! I’m all, I bet that was a surprise! They told me that with (SD) too, I wanted another boy, because I like little boys and I was already used to one. I just wasn’t in the mood to be having a little girl, now, I’m like there’s no way…

It was also during this conversation that Sarah’s biological dad came up. J told me that Sarah was lucky to have Keith there for her. I told her that Keith is the only dad she’s known, that her bio dad doesn’t know her, never sees her, he’s got addiction issues and that there are criminal charges filed against him for non payment of child support in the amount of $10,000. J said that’s too bad, but he still is her Dad. We talked about Sarah thinking everything is her’s, at almost 4 years old. J said, “That letter you wrote (SD) said she’s in Preschool, that will teach her how to share.”

We also spoke about how Keith and I talked about celebrating all the kids birthdays when we get them in the summer, since we have May, July, August and September. She seems to like that idea.

I told her we were planning in getting the tickets Friday, the day after tomorrow, that it’s $203/person, it had gone up as it was was $163/person.

She let me know that she takes her lunch at 12, for an hour ,but she’s been coming back at 12:30, to call then or anytime in the day, and we will go from there about travel arrangements.

Visitation Talk

I called a 8:15pm to give J some information for travel arrangements.

J- Hello?

P- J?

J- yeah

P- are you on the phone?

J- yes (inaudible) just called

P- Ok you want to call back?

J- um, no, you call me back.

P- When?

J- 1/2 an hour

P- ok bye

J- bye


J called back at 8:55pm:

P- Hello?

J- Patricia?

P- yeah

J- it’s J, I’m sorry, it was my dad

P- Oh that was Keith calling the kids.

J- oh

P- anyway

J- oh yeah, my dad was on the phone

P- can he

J- he doesn’t call me very often so he was like going on and on and on…

P- oh, that’s cool, um. can he talk to them before it gets late? later?

J- sure, well, can you tell me what’s up first?

P- uh, hold on…

( I wasn’t quite prepared, had to gather the information)

P- ok

J- do you want to just wait and tell me tomorrow and let him talk to them now? sorry…

(isn’t that what I asked at first? She was more interested in the information. So it was decided I would call her tomorrow night at home, cheaper costs.)

J- hold on, let me get the kids so he can talk to them.

P- ok, hold on, (calls for Keith to get on the other phone.)